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Healing 75% higher than Duel Score.
« on: February 03, 2013, 04:19:53 PM »
"Survivors who don't care about dueling but like healing better are now able to focus mostly on healing and still be able to defend themselves. How that works is if 75% of your healer level is above your dueler level, the healer skill will be used to defend instead of the dueler level" http://forums.pleasestaycalm.com/index.php?topic=5476.0

I'm one of those people who generally keeps their duel up to player level, so this doesn't really apply to me, But  I have a friend on PSC who says that he would have never leveled up his duel if he never had too. In fact when this rule came out, he stopped dueling altogether, and has decided to POWER LEVEL until he hits the level that is 75% higher than duel.

The PROBLEM is, he started at level 61. With all stats Maxed. So he's going through HC, without really dueling, to power level to 107. It just seems like a REALLY long way to go just to take advantage of this feature.

Is it possible just to make a button that allows you to choose between using your duel score or heal score to "DEFEND"? Or maybe lowering the "75%" too a slightly more reasonable number, maybe just for hardcore members or founders or something?

Just a thought!

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Re: Healing 75% higher than Duel Score.
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2013, 04:49:33 PM »
Raikua 75% of your healer skill has to be higher than your duel skill, so if duel is at 61 your healer skill would need to be about 83 for it to be used, not 107. The math is a little weird, but at least 83 is better than 107 right?
Therefore, Lessifer's answer is right.

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Re: Healing 75% higher than Duel Score.
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2013, 05:21:27 PM »
Hmmm....Wait... So, lets say both healing and Dueling are at 61.
75% of 61 is 45.75 (We'll round to 46)
So wouldn't 61 plus 46 equal 107?

What am I missing?

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Re: Healing 75% higher than Duel Score.
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2013, 05:29:55 PM »
75% of healer level needs to be above your dueler level, so if your healer level is 61, 75% of that is roughly 46; which means if your duel was only 45  then healer would act as duel defense.

If .75xheal level > duel level, then healer is used.

To calculate using duel skill level do: (duel level)/.75

So if you were level 100, and had a healer skill of 100, your duel skill would need to be 74 or lower for heal to be used.
Therefore, Lessifer's answer is right.

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Re: Healing 75% higher than Duel Score.
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2013, 08:44:51 PM »
I'd like to see once you hit hardcore your skills are no longer limited to your player level. Let people play the game how they enjoy and choose. Certainly there would still be plenty of incentives to level your player level for event and also player level is the deciding factor for health energy and stam. I think there would need to be a few tweaks if this were to happen, but I think it would certainly be a change for the good.
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Re: Healing 75% higher than Duel Score.
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2013, 09:22:41 AM »
I see the math completely different from both of you...

From zhunter's post:
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Survivors who don't care about dueling but like healing better are now able to focus mostly on healing and still be able to defend themselves. How that works is if 75% of your healer level is above your dueler level, the healer skill will be used to defend instead of the dueler level.

If 75% of your heal level is above your duel level then that means your duel level has to be 25% of your heal level or less.

So in the case of raikua's friend: if his duel score is 61, then his heal score needs to be 244.

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Re: Healing 75% higher than Duel Score.
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2013, 10:05:36 AM »
I read it the same way areksoo does.  Maybe there can be some clarification from MDI?

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Re: Healing 75% higher than Duel Score.
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2013, 10:42:06 AM »
In other words, does the healer level need to be >1.33x duel level (as in Lessifer's interpretation) or >4x duel level (as in Areksoo's interpretation)?
« Last Edit: February 04, 2013, 10:44:57 AM by iHelen »
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Re: Healing 75% higher than Duel Score.
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2013, 04:58:58 PM »
Hey guys,

I thought I'd clarify a bit here. My previous post can be misleading.

The algorithm:

if ( ( heal_level x 0.75 ) > duel_level ) --> Use heal skill for calculations
else --> Use duel skill for calculations

To determine what Heal skill level you need to be, here's a simple formula:

heal_skill_level = duel_skill_level x ( 4/3 )


Therefore, Lessifer's answer is right.

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Re: Healing 75% higher than Duel Score.
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2013, 05:12:49 PM »
Hey guys,

I thought I'd clarify a bit here. My previous post can be misleading.

The algorithm:

if ( ( heal_level x 0.75 ) > duel_level ) --> Use heal skill for calculations
else --> Use duel skill for calculations

To determine what Heal skill level you need to be, here's a simple formula:

heal_skill_level = duel_skill_level x ( 4/3 )


Therefore, Lessifer's answer is right.

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Re: Healing 75% higher than Duel Score.
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2013, 05:19:22 PM »
... they usually find us to be confusing  :D
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Re: Healing 75% higher than Duel Score.
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2013, 05:22:58 PM »
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Re: Healing 75% higher than Duel Score.
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2013, 05:38:39 PM »
Also, How much does it count for if your healing WAS your defending duel score?
Would your DS be the same as if your duel level is the same as your heal level?

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Re: Healing 75% higher than Duel Score.
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2013, 02:51:43 PM »
i was wondering the amount it added also.....
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Re: Healing 75% higher than Duel Score.
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2013, 03:24:59 PM »
As I understand it, and the devs can correct me if I'm wrong. Your heal skill level will work as the modifier for duel score in terms of defense at the same ratio as Duel skill would. So if your Heal skill level is 60 it would be like you have a Duel skill level of 60 when attacked, but it doesn't modify when you are the attacker.
Therefore, Lessifer's answer is right.